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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


1221 Posts
Posted - 21 October 2006 :  17:53:12

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh

          ShriMahaprabhuji was the only Acharya from the other previous Aacharya who included Shrimad Bhagwatji as a Praman and also wrote Bhashya on it. Considering to be the most important.

           But i wanted to discuss that Is it so that ShriMahaprabhuji only accepted these Chatustay Pramam as the Praman for Pushtimarg Rules and Regulations? Or other Shruti's Smruti's Upanisadhs also r included??

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

jigershah
Senior Member


215 Posts
Posted - 21 October 2006 :  19:07:03

jsk

samadhi bhasha   of shri bhagvat is praman swroop ( lok maat and para maat is ignored )

the common points between purva and uttar mimansa by jaimini rishi and and vyas  are also praman

other puransand upanishads  are also included as pramans  but are secondary in nature

the text acceptable to all other religious  teachers and that can form the base for establishing the doctrines

are four  veda  bhagvat  gita  and and brahma sutra

jsk



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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


1221 Posts
Posted - 24 October 2006 :  11:17:17

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

According to Shri Vallabhacharya:

 

Veda, Words of Shri Krshna (Gita),Bramhasutra of Vyas and Bhagwat together constitute a unified system conveying unanimous meaning. These four are complementary to each other and each one removes the doubts arising out of the previous one. E.g. the understanding of Gita and so on can clear any doubt in Veda. Any other means of knowledge which is in agreement with this system is also a pramana and never otherwise. 

And thus Shri Vallabhacharyaji proclaimed:

" Ekam Shastram Devkiputra Gitam"

There is one Shastra i.e. the one sung by Shri Krshna



Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

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unnati
Senior Member


224 Posts
Posted - 24 October 2006 :  14:23:02

Jai jai shri gokulesh

Bhagwat make man to man of god. Bhagwatji does not say anything which is not contained in Veda, Bhagwat Geeta and Bhrama Sutra. On the contrary what is obsure makes it easier. The authority of the puran is accepted bu thwe Upanishad and Bhagwatji is like a Tilak in relate to Puran. According to Chandogya Upanishad Puran is known as 5th veda. Bhagwat is Shri Krishna himself. Vyasji said that Gayatri is “Seed”, Veda is “Tree” and Bhagwat is “Fruit”. Its recitation of leela is required in kalyug.

For knowledge, first of all, we should turn to the Vedas, in case of any doubt arises in the teachings of the Vedas; we must seek guidance from the Geeta. The doubt with reference to Geeta should be resolved by the Brahma sutras. In case any doubt still remains, then, we must seek guidance from the Bhagavat, which is the last and the highest authority. Authority in addition to the Veda, the Geeta and the Brahma sutras is the characteristic feature of the Suddhadvaita system.

In "Nibandh Granth", Shri Mahaprabhuji has Quoted,

“Veda Shrikrishna Vakyani VyasSutrani  Chaiva Hi I

Samadhi Bhasha VyasSya Pramana Chatushtayam II ”

Also at "Shri Sarvottamji", Shri Gusainji gave one name of Shri Mahaprabhuji as "Shri Bhagwat-Gudhartha-Prakashana-Parayana", Here Shri Gusaiji has not used any other shashtra's name Coz the basic text or Mool granth of Pushtimarg is Shri Bhagwat. As the vyakhya on Shri Bhagwat was done by many but the Gupt Falrup of Pushtimarg was not known to all and the Gupt Falrup of pushtimarg  was only been known to Shri Mahaprabhuji. As in Shri Bhagwatji "Mukti" is considered as falrup... while in Pushtimarg "Bhakti" is considered as fruit. This shows how inferior is 'Mukti' in front of 'Bhakti'

 

 

 This is up to my limited knowledge... Please feel free to correct....



Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....

Unnati Kadakia

 

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jigershah
Senior Member


215 Posts
Posted - 24 October 2006 :  18:17:49

jsk

i agree with gopal and unnati  to understand veda  gita must be read to understand  gita bhagvaat ji should be studied and to understand bhagvaat  brahma sutra should be studied

bhagvaat ji has three kind of languages   lok maat  bhasha  the general observation    para maat  bhasha  the views of other  intellectuals ( rishis) and finally the pushti acceptable   samadhi bhasha

this bhasha is equal to word of god  ( brahm vakya)  and is complete truth

Veda Shrikrishna Vakyani VyasSutrani  Chaiva Hi I

Samadhi Bhasha VyasSya Pramana Chatushtayam II ”

the reason the above is used as praman as they are the widely acceptable  ancient scriptures

on which others have based there religuons and beliefs  

and thus provides a common platform towards maya vaad khandan  

shree prabhu did maya vaad khandan at three places   vijay nagar   jagannath puri and kashi 

jsk jiger shah



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unnati
Senior Member


224 Posts
Posted - 25 October 2006 :  09:09:36

Jai jai shri gokulesh

Jigerbhai, Shri Mahaprabhuji did maya vaad khandan at Jagannath puri is not true as it was done at "Orcha" near Madhya Pradesh.



Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....

Unnati Kadakia

 

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jigershah
Senior Member


215 Posts
Posted - 25 October 2006 :  09:58:37

jsk

i was refering to the slokes written by shri lord jagannath eako devo ...............taasya seva

in favour of shri vallabh  prabhu  declaring the seva of thakurji  as best above the doctrin of shankar

i might be wrong  though  please correct

jsk



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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


1221 Posts
Posted - 25 October 2006 :  11:56:52

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh

  Jigarbhai in ur previous post u had quoted the right sloka of

Veda Shrikrishna Vakyani VyasSutrani  Chaiva Hi I

Samadhi Bhasha VyasSya Pramana Chatushtayam II ”

This is the sloka requires to be discussed.



Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

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jigershah
Senior Member


215 Posts
Posted - 26 October 2006 :  10:13:06

jsk

bhagvaat ji has three kind of languages   lok maat  bhasha  the general observation    para maat  bhasha  the views of other  intellectuals ( rishis) and finally the pushti acceptable   samadhi bhasha

this bhasha is equal to word of god  ( brahm vakya)  and is complete truth  samadhi bhasha of vyas ji is supposed to be recieved in divine trance thus it is bhagvat vakya

now for the supporting text of pushti marg  shri vallabh prabhu has complied  mimansa bhashya

rishi vyas  wrote uttar mimansa abd jaimini  rishi created  purva mimansa  shree prabhu selected common

text of both momansa and is also an acceptable  praman

shandilya rishi created bhakti sutras  and entire bhakti sutras are adopted in pushti marg ( read 84  vaishnav  varta  one of the vaishnavs was incarnation of shandilya rishi  and shree vallabh prabhu refreshed the memory of the vaishnav and asserted that my pushti marg is based on your sutras )

taitirya upnishad is base for sat chit anand  explaination   here anand or happiness is measured

and thus asserting  ( ganitanandkam bruhut krishna eva gatirmama) even the happiness of akshr brahma is accounted for so krishna be my shelter  akshar brahma is place of mukti

at every step upanishad and purans are used to support the doctrin of shuddha advait  brahma vaad but are secondary in nature

the above 4 pramans accepted as base  by all the other sect as well......... as they are all word of god or  brahm vakya 

jsk jiger shah

 



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vaibhav_shah
Pushtikul Elite Member - December 2003


270 Posts
Posted - 30 November 2006 :  18:45:48

jay jay shree gokulesh

before shree mahaprabhuji only  three things were considered as praman but mahaprabhuji enforced the forth praman that is shreemad bhagvat.

when shree mahaprabhuji went to the dharmasabha of vijaynagar than this prasng happened.



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kaveeru
Junior Member


104 Posts
Posted - 02 December 2006 :  00:19:11

Jai Shree Krishna,

I wanted to know, how many Granthas are there which are wrote by Shri Mahaprabhuji.. Can anybody provide the list of Granthas...

I know some of them but don't know exactly what are all...?

Thanks

Kavita

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