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manish1
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Posted - 16 January 2005 : 04:39:26
Jai SHree Krishna,This weekend when I met Jayvin bhai, one question where we were not sure was Can we climb on top of Govardhan parvat to the first haveli by ourselves to have darshan or for attending aarti. Or can we only climb when we have aagya of Shree Vallabh Kul only??
Manish Jai Shree Krishna
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Vasant Punjabi
Vice-President & Pushtikul Elite Member - May 2003
1047 Posts
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Posted - 16 January 2005 : 04:41:49
Jai Shri Krishna,
Only if you have aagya of Shree Vallabh Kul.
Vasant
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shreekant22
PRO - Pushtikul.com / P.E.M. January 2004
1853 Posts
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Posted - 16 January 2005 : 09:22:12
Jai Shree Krishna
From what i am given to understand, one has adhikar to visit the haveli once for darshan. Beyond that no. And if one still wants to, then one should take agya of Vallabh kul.
Further, at all times, when one sets is foot/feet on Shree Girirajjji, one has offer dandvat, seek pardon and only then proceed to ascend on Shree Girirajji.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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Hitesh
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Posted - 16 January 2005 : 17:36:34
Jai shree krishna to all vaisnavs,
I totally agree with shreekantbhai on his post.Without agya one should not go above on the parvat. And before one goes up he/she must do dundvat and ask for Shama yachna from shri girirajji for giving shram.
This is what we have learnt from goswami balkos and other vaisnavs.
Sri Madanmohanji aur Shri Swamniji ji ki jai.
Jsk, Hitesh.
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anoopjp
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Posted - 16 January 2005 : 17:49:42
Dear Vaishnavs
Jai Shree Krishna
What I understood when I went to Shree Girirajji is that if we want to have darshan of the swarup ontop of Shree girirajji then we must ask the aagya from the mukharvind swarup of Shree Girirajji and the Dandwati shila and only then climb Shree Girirajji.
Anoop
Anoop J. Purohit
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jayvinbhatt
Mover & Shaker Member
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Posted - 17 January 2005 : 02:47:01
jai shree krishna
what i know is always hav to take aagna from vallabh kul if u want to climb up on the govardhan parvath
Jay Bhatt
(JAI SHREE KRISHNA)
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jatin
Pushtikul Ethics Director / P.E.M. June 2003
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Posted - 17 January 2005 : 10:33:43
Hi...ALL,
Without the Aagya of Shri vallbhkul we are not allowed to climb the Shri Girirajji...even for Darshan too...
I think everybody must be knowing the prasang Pratham Milan ...when Shri Mahaprabhuji was going to Meet Shri Shreejibawa at Vraj on that time he himself was not willing to climb the Shri Girirajji.
Jai Shree Krishna
Shree Dwarikadhiski Jai Shree Sri Lalji Pyare Ki Jai Jatin Malkan
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Vasant Punjabi
Vice-President & Pushtikul Elite Member - May 2003
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Posted - 17 January 2005 : 10:53:53
Jai Shri Krishna,
Excellent Jatinbhai not only that please read Vallabhakyan second chapter shlok 25 and 26.
You are right even Shri Mahaprabhuji would not have climbed but Giriraj himself gave permission and requested Him before Shri Mahaprabhuji kept his tender feet on it.
Giriraj ne Ashwash di-dho, Dhari komal Charan ----
etc.
So can jeevs keep their feet on swaroop of God even by offering dandwat or seeking pardon or giving shram.?
One must definitely take Aagya from Shri Vallabh Kul before doing same as per my previous posting.
But all vaishanavs can put their opinions.
Edited by - Vasant Punjabi on January 17 2005 10:55:09
Edited by - Vasant Punjabi on January 18 2005 11:16:55
Vasant
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shreekant22
PRO - Pushtikul.com / P.E.M. January 2004
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Posted - 17 January 2005 : 11:07:10
Jai Shree Krishna
It is incorrect to refer to Vaishnavs in general and call them doosht jeevs. While yes there may be Doosht jeevs among us, such references are not made to the best of my knowledge. We see this being followed by all Kavivars, where even in while describing doostatha, they have refered to themselves adn never ever generalised. This i think is a Vaishanvs Maryada.
This is my understanding, and my personal view, my apaologies if I have hurt anyone by mentioning the above.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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Vasant Punjabi
Vice-President & Pushtikul Elite Member - May 2003
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Posted - 17 January 2005 : 11:32:15
Jai Shri Krishna,
Hope you must have read this
Jeev sarva bhav thi dusht------ in Kaljug.
Who said this and when?
Vasant
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Hitesh
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Posted - 17 January 2005 : 23:59:48
Jai shri Krishna to all vaisnavs,
I agree with shreekantbhai as to what he has said above in his post.One should all ways refer to them selfs before pointing finger at everybody or saying such things, and then only it is called vaisnavtah in a vaisnav, because he is pointing out bad things in him not anyone else.
Please do forgive me if i have upset anyone by my post.
Shri Madanmohanlalji ki jai.
Jsk, Hitesh.
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