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unnati
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Posted - 21 June 2006 :  10:26:04

Jai jai shri gokulesh

"Samarpan ke Siddhant" which is described in Shri Bhagwatji is as follows;

 

The 4 Sthal of Samarpan are divided into 4 parts

 * Bhatvat dharama ke Lakshan / Nirdesh

 * Bhagvat dharma ka Mahatmya

 * Bhagvat dharma ka Upaya

 * Bhagvat dharma ka Fal

1st sthal ……

Here Naradji gives instructions about Bhagvat Dharma to the faithful and inquisitive Vasudevji by recounting a conversation between King Nimi and 9 Yogendras.

Manu's son was "Priyavrata". His son was "Aagnidhra", whose son was "Nabhi". "Lord Rushabhadeva", incarnated as a son of Nabhi. The 9 yogendras described here are the sons of Lord Rushabhadeva i.e."Kavi, Havir, Antariksha, prabuddha, Pipplayana, Avirhotra, Drumila, Kamasa and Karabhajana."

 * Lakshan

 “ Ye vai bhagvata prokta upaya hy atma-labdhaye I

   Anjah pumsam avidusami viddhi bhagwatan hi tan II ” (11/2/34)

Ye : Which

Vai : Indeed

Bhagvata : By the supreme personality of god

Prokta : Spoken

Upaya : Means

Hy : Indeed

Atma-labdhaye : For realizing the supreme soul

Anjah : Easily

Pumsam : By person

Avidusami : Less intelligent

Viddhi : Know

Bhagwatan : To be bhagwat dharma

Hi : Certainly

Tan : These

Meaning:

Even ignorant living entities can very easily come to know the supreme lord if they adopted those means prescribed by the supreme lord himself. The process recommended by the lord is to be known as bhagwat dharma, or devotional service to the supreame personality of the godhead.

Edited by - unnati on 24 June 2006 09:11:31

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unnati
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224 Posts
Posted - 21 June 2006 :  12:56:52

Jai jai shri gokulesh

1st sthal ……

 * Mahatmaya

 “ Yan asthaya naro rajanna pramadayeta karhicit I

    Dhavan nimilya va netre napated iha II ” (11/2/35)

Yan : Which (means)

Asthaya : Accepting

Naro : A man

Rajan : O king

Na Pramadayeta : Is not bewildered

Karhichit : Ever

dhavan : Running

Nimilya : Closing

Va : Or

Netre : His eyes

Na skhalet : Will not trip 

Na pathet : Will never fall

Iha : On this path

Meaning:

O king one who accepts this process of devotional service to the supreme personality of godhead will never blunder on his path in this world. Even while runing with eyes closed he will never trip or fall.

Edited by - unnati on 24 June 2006 09:12:05

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dadaji
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240 Posts
Posted - 22 June 2006 :  09:11:53

Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh.

Why Shri purushottamcharan disscussed this 4 sthal here in Sidhhant Rahasya granth?



Haripriya.

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unnati
Senior Member


224 Posts
Posted - 22 June 2006 :  16:58:27

Jai jai shri gokulesh

Nice query Haripriyaji. I would like to try this query.

Shri Purshottamji has explained the Sthal of Samarpan from Shrimad Bhagwat in Siddhant Rahasya Granth is with refrence to 2nd Stanza i.e.

Brahmasambandh-Karnaat-Sarveshaam Dehjeevayo ||
Sarvadoshnivruttihi Dosha PanchVidhya Smrutaha || 2 ||

Hi means without any doubt (Nischay / Sandeh nahi hona cahiye).

As in the first stanza Shri Vallabhacharyaji said "tadaksharasha uchyate"  but as the Panchakshar Mantra is gopniya, the gadh mantra is not written in this treatise. Here in 2nd stanza the first word itself is Brahmasambandha karnat (Sahastra................Samarpyami) i.e the soul who has done brahmasambandh, that means the Panchakshar Mantra is been made to repeat by the Jiva after hearing it from the Acharya -Guru.

Just for giving the example of "Nivedan, Samarpan and Bhakti" described in the 11th canto at many shlokas which are similar to the "Nivedan, Samarpan and Bhakti" described in the treatise of  Siddhant Rahasya Granth, Shri Purshottamji took the refrence of Shrimad Bhagwat. And this 11th canto is based on the 4 sthal of Samarpan.

Please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.

Unnati Kadakia

Edited by - unnati on 23 June 2006 09:16:38

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dadaji
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Posted - 23 June 2006 :  16:37:06

Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh.
 
In tika, Shri Purushottamaji said,Atra mama twadanyapi pratibhati. Means, yaha kahe gaye samast bhagvad-vakyoko ekatra karake sabhi prachin Acharyone unaka arth kaha hai. Lekin, mujeto yaha kuch aurbhi pratit ho raha hai.

As you said Unnati,
("Nivedan, Samarpan and Bhakti" described in the 11th canto at many shlokas which are similar to the "Nivedan, Samarpan and Bhakti" described in the treatise of  Siddhant Rahasya Granth, Shri Purshottamji took the refrence of Shrimad Bhagwat. And this 11th canto is based on the 4 sthal of Samarpan.)
 
And if these refrences are already there in Shrimad Bhagvat, then anybody can raise question of uniqness of Ghadhya mantra, it is a translation of these places etc…But Ghadhya mantra is unique and not a translation of any other place.

So to prove uniqness of Ghadhya mantra, these references He discussed here. This is as per my understanding.

Unnati pl. go ahead



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purvi
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Posted - 23 June 2006 :  16:44:46

jay jay shri gokulesh.

in the tikaji of Siddhant Rahasyam by Shri purshottam prabhucharan, purvapakshi raises a doubt that the gadyamantra is just a translation(anuvaad) of Shrimad Bhagvat. here Shri Purshottam Prabhucharan explains the 4 sthals and proves that the gadyamantra is not a mere repetition of Shrimad Bhagvat but it has something extra.

so to prove the uniqueness of the gadyamantra, the 4 sthals of Shrimad Bhagvat r explained in the tikaji.

correct me if i am wrong.

jay jay shri gokulesh.



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unnati
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Posted - 24 June 2006 :  09:09:40

Jai jai shri gokulesh

Thanx for the prompt reply Haripriyaji and also Thanx nisha for attaining the query.

1st sthal ……

 * Upaya

It includes from (11/2/36) to (11/2/39).

A) “ Kayena vacha manasendriyair va buddhyatmana vanusruta svabhavat I

        Karoti yad yat sakalam parasmai narayana yeti samarpayet tat II ” (11/2/36)

kayena : With the body

Vacha : Speach

Manaso : Mind

Indriyain : Senses

Va : Or

Buddhya : With the intelligence

Aatmana :The Purified conciousness 

Va : Or

Anusruta : Followed

Swabhavat : Acc. to one's conditioned nature

Karoti: One does

Yat Yat : Whatever

Sakalam : All

Parasmai : To the supreme Lord Narayan

Yeti : Thinking " This is of Lord Narayan"

Samarpayet : He should Offer

Tat : That

Meaning:

In accordance with the particular nature one has acquired in conditioned life, whatever one does with body, word, mind, senses, intelligence or purified conciousness one should offer to the supreme thinking, "This is for the pleasure of Lord Narayan."

 

Edited by - unnati on 24 June 2006 09:12:46

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unnati
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Posted - 24 June 2006 :  09:57:31

Jai jai shri gokulesh

1st sthal ……

 * Upaya

B) “ Bhayam dvitiyabhinivesatah syad isad apetasya viprayayo smrutih IB

        Tan mayayato budha abhajet tam Bhaktyaikayesam guru-devatatma II ” (11/2/37)

Bhayam : Fear

Dvitiya : In something seeming to be other than the lord

Abhinivesatah : Because of absorbtion

Syat : It will arise

Isat : From the supreme lord

Apetasya : For one who has turned away

Viparyayah :Misidentification 

Asamruthi : Forgetfulness

Tat : Of that lord

Mayaya : By the illusory energy

Ataha : Therefore

Budhah : An intelligent person

Abhajet : Should worship fully

Tam : Him

Bhaktya : With devotion

Ekaya : Unalloyed

Esam : The lord

Guru-devatatma : One who sees his own spiritual master as his lord and very soul

Meaning:

Fear arises when a living entity misidentifies himself as the material body because of absorption in the external, illusory energy of the Lord. When the living entity thus turns away from the Supreme Lord, he also forgets his own constitutional position as a servant of the Lord. This bewildering, fearful condition is effected by the potency for illusion, called maya. Therefore, an intelligent person should engage unflinchingly in the unalloyed devotional service of the Lord, under the guidance of a bona fide spiritual master(Acharya guru), whom he should accept as his worshipable deity and as his very life and soul.

 

 

 



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unnati
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Posted - 27 June 2006 :  10:26:34

Jai jai shri gokulesh

1st sthal ……

 * Upaya

C) “Avidhyamano 'py avabhati hi dvayo dhyatur dhiya svapna manorathau yatha I

   Tat karmasankalpa vikalpakam mano budho nirundhyad abhayam tatah syat II"

(11/2/38)

Avidhyamanoha : Not present in reality

Api : Although

Avabhati : Is menifest

Hi: Indeed

Dvayah : Duality

Dhyatuh : Of the person experiencing

Dhiya : By the intelligence

Svapna : A dream

Manahrathau : Or the conceiving of the desire

Yatha : As

Tat : Therefore

Karma : Of material Activities

Sankalpa-Vikalpakam : Having the function of forming positive and negative desires

Manah : The mind

Budhah : An intelligent person

Nirundhyat : Should Bring under control

Abhayam : Fearlessness

Tatha : In this way

Syat : There may be

Meaning:

Although the duality of the material world does not ultimately exist, the conditioned soul experiences it as real under the influence of his own conditioned intelligence. This imaginary experience of a world separate from Lord Krishna can be compared to the acts of dreaming and desiring. When the conditioned soul dreams at night of something desirable or horrible, or when he daydreams of what he would like to have or avoid, he creates a reality that has no existence beyond his own imagination. The tendency of the mind is to accept and reject various activities based on sense gratification. Therefore an intelligent person should control the mind, restricting it from the illusion of seeing things separate from Lord Krishna, and when the mind is thus controlled he will experience actual fearlessness. 



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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


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Posted - 27 June 2006 :  19:17:35

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh

    In the middle of the session I would like to add the Samarpan's 6 ways, which ShriMahaprabhuji had given orders in Panch Sloki Granth.

Anukulasya Sankalpa1 Pratikulasya Varjanam2|| 4 || karishyati Vishvaso3Bhartutave Varanam4 Tatha|| Aatmanajvedhyakarpanye5,6 Shudhvidha Sharnagati || 5 ||

 

==>Means ::- resolution to be taken to make anukul to prabhu, leave the unadjustable of prabhu, full faith for the whole & sole is only prabhu doing as his wish, accept prabhu in form of swami, aatmanivedan - dedication of soul & deenta - blissful nature, are the six types of sharanagati ......



Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

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unnati
Senior Member


224 Posts
Posted - 29 June 2006 :  11:21:52

Jai jai shri gokulesh

1st sthal ……

 * Upaya

D) “Shrunvan su bhadrani rathanga panerjanmani karmani cha yani loke I

        Gitani namani tad-arthakani gayan vilajjo vichared asangah II ” (11/2/39)

Shrunvan :Hearing

Su-bhadrani : All auspicious

Rathangapaneh : Of the supreme Lord, who holds a chariot wheels in his hand

Janmani : The appearence

Karmani : Activities

Cha : And

Yani : Which

Loke : In this world

Gitani : Are chanted

Namani : Names

Tat-arthakani : Signifying these appearences and activities

Gayan : Singing

Villaja : Free from embarrassment

Vicharet : One should wander

Asangah : Without material association

Meaning:

An intelligent person who has controlled his mind and conquered fear should give up all attachment to material objects such as wife, family and nation and should wander freely without embarrassment, hearing and chanting the holy names of the Lord, the bearer of the chariot wheel. The holy names of Lord Krishna are all-auspicious because they describe His transcendental birth and activities, which He performs within this world for the salvation of the conditioned souls. Thus the holy names of the Lord are sung throughout the world. 



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