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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


1221 Posts
Posted - 07 January 2004 :  10:05:28
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Is pushtimarg for everyone?

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Jigna
Pushtikul Elite Member - October 2003


219 Posts
Posted - 08 January 2004 :  07:50:14
Jai Shree Krishna to all, Dear Gopalbhai, I'm not sure whether I'll be giving u the correct answer but still let me try out with whatever knowledge I do 've on this topic. All those who want to follow Mahaprabhuji's path to attain God's grace can follow Pushtimargya. It is different from Brahmasambandh. It is Mahaprabhu's simple philosophy of achieving God. A simple method where seva is the greatest way of attainting God's grace. It can be followed by any soul who wants to be His sevak. Since Vaishanavs have been doing it for years together...we believe tht Pushtimargya is for Vaishanavs only but it can be followed by anyone. Any better explaination pllease do share with us. Regds Jigna Edited by - Jigna on January 08 2004 07:51:55 Go to Top of Page
jatin
Pushtikul Ethics Director / P.E.M. June 2003


424 Posts
Posted - 08 January 2004 :  09:08:18
Dear Gopal, Pushtimarg is only for the Devi Jiva .... Due to some mistakes(Apradh)in golokdham they came to earth. Thakorji is Sachhidanand and jiv is separated from Shri thakorji while they came to earth so they became sachhidansh. when the JIva take Brahmasambandh and he becomes eligible to seva of Shri Thakorji ad again he becomes Sachhidananddas. Shri Thakorji himself gave Agya to Shri Mahaprabhuji to gave Brahmasambandh to Pushti Jiva(Debi Jiva) so by doing samarpan and taking Brahmsambandh he again becomes Pushtimargiya vaishnav.

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Vasant Punjabi
Vice-President & Pushtikul Elite Member - May 2003


1047 Posts
Posted - 10 January 2004 :  09:10:57
Jai Shri Krishna, No Pushti means Grace as we all know. God being kind by nature can shower His grace on many different souls in many different ways. All souls are equal to God but in His divine game He showers some with either more or less grace. Pushti jivas are showered with such grace hence Shri Mahaprabhuji names them as Sprouting of Grace. Such souls are not only liberated from all worries but God Himself takes care of all their worldly and Divine affairs and matters. That is why Shri Mahaprabhuji says in SiddanthMuktavali as follows The pedestrians of Pushti Bhakti Marg are governed solely by God's grace in the worldly of divine matters in his journey or reaching destinations. Therefore, in Pushti Marg or Path Of Grace is one where whatever that happens to a devotee is by the Grace of God.

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Vasant Punjabi
Vice-President & Pushtikul Elite Member - May 2003


1047 Posts
Posted - 10 January 2004 :  09:16:39
Jai Shri Krishna, I am happy with different responses which are very good and very knowledgeable for all. I would request more inputs as it helps us build up the knowledge that we want. We should all consider very very lucky to be born in this Marg. Vaishnavs please reply to all topics you have some knowledge of.

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manish1
Senior Member


239 Posts
Posted - 08 January 2005 :  12:33:21
Jai Shree Krishna, I have read many times about devi jeevs, but frankly not properly understood it. Can someone please explain the same?? Also perhaps my next question to follow would be, can a non devi jeev become devi jeev?? Thanks,

Manish 
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


1221 Posts
Posted - 09 January 2005 :  18:38:20
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh, Manishbhai, Pushtimarg is for anyone -- means any jeev can be a part of pushtimarg, but not for everyone, -- means, every jeev will notbe pushtimargiya. Pushtimarg means the path of grace., and regardless of being a dust jeev or good jeev, it all depends on the varan ( krupa) of shrivallabh, to whom to attract to pushtimarg. As in bhagwatji, the vaarta of ajamil,. very dust jeev, still only taking the name of narayan, he was given mukti, and even for chitswami -- one from astsakha, who was known as chitu choba, one dust jeev, still when he came to have darshana of ShriGusaiji with khota ( false )coin and the rotton shrifal, both were utilized by ShriGusaiji and became chitta swami. so when and where the jeev gets sharan, is not in any jeev's hand, but all shrivallabh's wish-krupa-anugraph-pushti. Edited by - gopal on January 10 2005 09:29:47

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shreekant22
PRO - Pushtikul.com / P.E.M. January 2004


1853 Posts
Posted - 09 January 2005 :  19:16:04
Jai Shree Krishna Very well said Gopal bhai. We as pushitjeevs ought to realise this fact that, only with great krupa one becomes a pushti jeev. Pushtimarg is for anyone, but everyone does not/will not beocme a pushtimargiya.

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ANJLI
Junior Member


61 Posts
Posted - 10 January 2005 :  01:33:13
Vallah Vaishnav Ne Jai Shri Krishna It is explained that, those who have appeared from Shri Nathji's mind wander according to their limited view. Others, who have manifested from His speech try to locate God through His words. Those who have come forth from His bliss form appear in this world to join His lila. They are the Grace-Filled ones and surround Shri Nathji. Well input from the PRO, "Pushtimarg is for everyone", but How many of us will be those Graced-Filled ones? And explained by Gopalji, Devi or Non-Devi Jeev, can become Pushti Vaishnav, but it is up to us, individuals to choose to be the chosen one to be Graced by Shri Vallabh. Edited by - ANJLI on January 10 2005 01:39:51 Edited by - ANJLI on January 10 2005 01:43:28

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manish1
Senior Member


239 Posts
Posted - 10 January 2005 :  03:35:52
Jai Shree Krishna, Thanks to everyone for the answer. I was thinking perhaps same but wanted clarification. As sometime people say that he cannot be a pushti jeev or vaishnav, but as said above by all of you that is on the will of Shree Thakorji. Thus we should not take pessimistic view against those who are not. As there would have been time we might have also been dust jeev or still are. Thanks,

Manish 
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003


1221 Posts
Posted - 10 January 2005 :  09:38:07
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh, Yes manishbhai, it is all shrithakurji's nij-iccha that whom to take sharan and we r not to judge that this jeev is a daivi jeev, only shrivallabh can judge for it. There is no age for a jeev to enter to pushtimarg with having diksha from shrivallabhkul balak of any dwar. So it is our saubhagya that shrivallabh had done our varan and we r the part of pushtimarg. and once again that Pushtimarg is for any one, but not for everyone Edited by - gopal on January 10 2005 09:39:30

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