Dear Vaishnavs

Jai Shree Krishna

When we take the initiation into this wonderful marg of Pushti, it is called as BRAMASAMBANDH. As the word implies who is the brahma with whom is our sambandh done???

Please tell...

Anoop J P

jay jay shree gokulesh

as written in vedas

at the starting of the shrusti shree purna purashottam  brahma ( means shree thakorji) was alone and thought that

"EKO AHAM BAHUSYAMI"  so he created vraj and  all jeev.

we all are jeev which are separated from him.

and due to ignorance we have forgoten the joy .

brahama sambandh is to join again with this brahama (shree thakorji)

please correct me if  i am wrong

vaibhav shah

"bramasambandh" means in my  way is -

Brama is the main boss of Brahammand

Bramasambandh is the simpelest way to coummunicate with him

any more quries ask me

KRISHNADAS NA

"JAI SHREE KRISHNA"

Dear Vaishnavs

Jai Shree Krishna

Thanks for replying Niravbhai and Vaibhavbhai.

My point is that is our thakorji Brahma or above brahma. If you feel he is above brahma then who is our brahmasambandh done with????

If our sambandh was with Purna Pushti Purushottam Sadchitanand Thakorji shree Krishna then why Shreemad Vallabh called this as BrahmaSambandh and not KrishnaSambandh.....

There is a catch in the wording, please think again.... Anyone else can guess this please reply.

Anoop

jay jay shri gokulesh.

Brahmasambandh means our sambandh with shri Krishna.

shri krishna only means brahma.

in Siddhantrahasyam, thakorji told shri mahaprabhuji-

bramhasambandh karnat sarvesham deh jeevayo.

so this word was used by shri krishna himself.

this is my understanding.

Jai jai shri gokulesh

When we take the initiation into this wonderful marg of Pushti, it is called as BRAMASAMBANDH.

Previously God (Shri Krishna) was alone and when he felt like doing leelas (sports) on the earth, he gave  order to Brahma (akshar brahma) to create a universe. So Brahma created Jeeva and Jagat as per the order. As the concept of Anand (sat chit anand) is moreover conceived with purnapurshottam and is very partially present in jeeva . And so to get the aspect of anand there is a necessity to get connected with Purnapurshottam.In this whole Brahmasambandh is done with Shri Krishna whom we call as Shri Thakoreji.

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Jay Jay Shree Gokulesh,
I want to add something as this is really very good question, Anoopbhai…Bhahma is the meant for Krishna , Bruhat-Ganitanand and Parbhahma-Aganitanand. (Krishnashray-Slok-8) in Shodash granths, Shri Mahaprabhuji generally used Hari but Hai and Parbhahma is same. This we can say as per folloing sentences ……….
Parbhrahmatu Krishnohi Sachhidanandkam Bhruhat- S.M.- Slok- 3
Parmanandrupe tu Krishne swatmani nischay-  S.M- Slok- 11Atastu brahmvaden Krishne buddhirvidhiyatam- S.M. – Slok- 12
Krishna Parbrahma - S.M. Slok-14
Yaihi Krishna satkrutpranehi: - Navratna.
Krishnat param nasti daivam..- Anta:karan prabodh  etc …. Brahmeti parmatmeti bhagvaneti shabdhyate..srimad bhagvat-(1-2-11) In shruti-Brahma, in Smruti- Parmatma and in Puran- Bhagvan word is used for Shri Krishna. In Sidhhant Rayasya,  the words are said by Shri Prabhu himself (Tadaksharsh:) and He used it for Himself.

Now for samband…… As per Shri Vallabhachryaji, Shri Prabhu is anshi and jeev is ansh." Mamaivansho jeevloke"- Bagvadgeeta. Shri Vallabhachryaji  proved this with  “parabhidhyanat tu tirohitam tato hrushya bandhvipsryayo.”.-Brahmasutra-( 3-2-12.)

With this Shri mahaprabhuji wants to say about sambandh, tadiyatva, premabhakti, tyag.
By all these pramans , we can understand why Shri Mahaprabhuji said Brahma Sambandh not Krishna sambandh…

Do correct if I m wrong.

Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,

Yes Brahma in Brahma-sambandh is refered to Shri Krishna.

Just a shlok from Bhagwad Gita

In Bhagavad-gItA (10.12), only Krishna is addressed as purusha:

param brahma param dhAma pavitram paramam bhavAn |
purusham shAshvatam divyam Adi-devam ajam vibhum ||

"You are the Supreme Brahman (BRAHMA), the ultimate, the supreme abode and purifier, the Absolute Truth and the eternal divine person. You are the primal God, transcendental and original, and You are the unborn and all-pervading beauty."

Thus Shri Krishna is the enjoyer, and all living entities are meant to be enjoyed by Him.

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

            Brahma-Sambandha

As said earlier, all beings in the world are the Amsha, Divine-particles, of the Supreme Being Shri Krishna. So by virtue of this relationship all beings are, by nature, humble attendants and servants of Bhagavan. Initiation of Brahma-Sambandha, therefore, does not establish this relationship, it just helps in recalling this forgotten relationship. So, after obtaining this initiation, a devotee gets united with Shri Krishna in the bond of Master-servant. Every relationship demands some kind of faith, affection, duty and sacrifice. By this initiation a devotee dedicates himself together with all his belongings and relationships to Shri Krishna. Now, what should be the next course for him? Shri Vallabhacharya states in his work “Siddhanta-Rahasya”:

Sevakanam yatha loke, vyavaharah prasiddhyati;

Tatha karyam samarpyaiva, sarvesam brahmata tatah.

Just as in this world everywhere,

Servants' duty to serve their masters is known well;

So should be done by one dedicating all to Bhagavan,

Thereby all things being related to Brahma become divine.

Meaning: Just as servants' duty to serve their lords is known well and has earned recognition everywhere in society, so one should do one's duty to serve Shri Krishna by dedicating all to Him. Thereby all things, as they come in contact with the Supreme Brahma, become divine.

This initiation is also known as ‘Atma-nivedana’. ‘Nivedana’ means to make known, to declare, to proclaim. Declaration of oneself along with one's animate and inanimate belongings in the favour of Shri Krishna is called ‘Atma-nivedan’ the declaration of the dedication of the self alongwith those that are related to self''. Initiation for Resort and Initiation for Self-declaration should be obtained from the qualified male descendents hailing from Shri Vallabhacharya only. Shri Vallabhacharya says in his work “Siddhanta-Rahasya”:

Brahma-sambandha-karanat, sarvesham deha-jivayoh,

Sarvadosha-nivrttir hi.

Meaning: By realizing the intimate relationship between Shri Krishna and the Jiva i.e. individual-soul, all flaws of body and soul are removed. They become divine.

Some children happen to be very mischievous by nature but their parents do not drive them away from home. This is because parents consider them as their own. Parents' natural affection for children restrict them to do so. Similarly, how-so-ever blemishes we may have in us, but on our having made “declaration of self-dedication”, Shri Krishna considers us His own and because of this He accepts our service without minding our drawbacks. Here, we should always keep in our mind that there is vast difference between the un-mindfulness of Shri Krishna and our being faultless.

The sacred formula i.e. Mantra of the Brahma-Sambandha initiation was accorded to Shri Vallabhacharya by Shri Krishna Himself.

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda

Dear Vaishnavs

Jai Shree Krishna

From the above posts we can gladly say that we have some really learned people in the satsang mandal. Taking excerpts from Shreemad Bhagwat and Gita etc. I am really happy about the responses.

My understanding of Shree Krishna is that he is parbrahma (that which is above brahma) Purna pushti purushottam Yashodotsanglalitya. Then how we can all him just brahma. Even our own thakorji that resides at our home is not brahma but the purna purushottam Shree Krishna himself. When we take initiation in this marg of grace, vallabhkul balaks give tulsi ji to us and give the initiation. This is then taken from our hand and put in thakorji's yugal charnarvind.

The siddhant is that the Yugal charan of shreenathji are the swaroop of Akshar Brahma. This is the brahma where our sambandh is done . our sambandh is with the charnarvind of thakorji becuase we are dasanudas of thakorji. What is our strength that we can do seva of thakorji? It is by his grace and Shreemad Vallabh's Aagya that thakorji accepts the seva we do.

I hope my explanation was satisfactory, I will like more comments on this. Please do comment

Anoop

brahmasambandh is to be taken for the seva of thakorji.witout bramhasambandh we cannot perform the seva of shri thakorji.it is clear that in word brahmasambandh th word brahma is used for shri thakorji.and taking brhamasamband means to getting connected to shri thakorji.