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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
1221 Posts
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 Posted - 13 July 2003 : 17:32:16
Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh
Regarding the previous question, that What is Param Bhagwadiya?
In that context, can we call Param Bhagwadiya to any of the Vaishnavas? If yes then what is the exact defination of Param Bhagwadiya?jai jai shri gokulesh Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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ojhaak
Pushtikul Elite Member - September 2003
209 Posts
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Posted - 18 July 2003 : 11:44:21
Jai Shree Krishna
In prentation during the gathering for the purpose of introduction for respected and Elderly Bhagvadiya , to pay respect we habe made habbits of adding adjective "PARAM" in all most all places and there is nothing wrong. But , as per the types defined previously is the one stands ( in previous question refered above)
Jai Shree Krishna
A.K.OJHA
Jai Shree Krishna
A.K.OJHA
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malati
Junior Member
119 Posts
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Posted - 20 July 2003 : 01:41:00
" gokuleshojayati"I think that there is a three
stap of vaishvav,s categary. 1.when bhakt gets
bramsbandh from guru he becomes das of thakorji
like starting sarvent in laukik.2.servent get
love from his swami and he also gives love to
his femily and swami.he serve his femily with love
now he becomes sevak of thkorji.they loves each
other.3.tadasi[prembhagvadi]-when he can not live
without his swami he becomes tadasibhagavadi
sarvent now becomes a member of this femily.he
serves his swami like own femily.He do't want limite of time to serve.he wants visite everyday
he donot want left his house.and shehani also
can not live without her.like in alaukik thakorji
can not live without his sevak and sevak can not
live without thkorji.now he felt love[aashkt]each
other.he want not want good feciliti and food
without his swami.this step call step of vyasan
or aasakti.example-ther is a one varta in 252,
vaishnav.once atime gusaiji invite all vaishnav
to take prashad.all bhakt start and take prashad
but ther was a one tadasivaishnav was not take a
prashad.and there is a water was comes out from
his eyes.other vaishnav have inform to gushaiji
that one vaishnav not start to eating aprashad
after that gushaiji try to know areason.he asked
to that vaishnav -why you do't take aprashad?
vaisnav say with dinta.i come to here for your
agna you invite me for prashad.i should follow
yours aagna.but ican not eat good food without
my thakorji.beacause iam poor i can not make sweet
for thakorji.today i serve to thakorji items of
bajari in my house.so ican not eat prashd alone
without my thakorji.this isa call tadasi and prem
bhagvadi.good expletion always welcome!
malatimajmudar.
malati
malati
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jatin
Pushtikul Ethics Director / P.E.M. June 2003
424 Posts
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Posted - 21 July 2003 : 11:21:18
Dear Gopalbhai,
Now a days Param Bhagvidaya word is become very very common for all among the vaishnavs they are calling any big chap to Param Bhagvidaya and main thing is that big chap doesn't know also what is the actual meaning of Param Bhagwadayia .
The defination of Param Bhagvadiay what given by Dharmendra bhai in previous question but now a days for the sake of name or if we require something from the another person(Big Chap) for that as a respect we are using Param Bhagvidaya word but as per my thinking there are Param Bhagvadiay vaishnavs in this world but they will never like that any one call him as param bhagwadiya they wil always say this statement that we are the Dasanu Das of "SHREE THAKORJI"
If you feel i hurt any one than please forgive this is my point of view might be it is wrong .
jai Shree Krishna
Jatin Malkan
Shree Dwarikadhiski Jai
Shree Sri Lalji Pyare Ki Jai
Jatin Malkan
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malati
Junior Member
119 Posts
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Posted - 25 July 2003 : 22:25:52
jayjaysreegokulesh
this is athird step of bhakt toreach thakorji.
all bhakt can not reach this step but after brahm
sabandh which bhaktfollow the agna of guru a or
keep aaratto follow the agna of guru.they can
reach this stap.its main root is love,ananybhakti
dinta.to seva of vaishnav,satsang.in today life
stayal we should atlistwhich principal avelebal
to follow weshould follow or keep arat for that.
and try to follow.any one do gungan of thakorji
as das bhav, patibhav,or putrabhav with niswarth
prem.they should not live without thakorj,s nam-
smaran with laukik work.he can gets thakorji's
krupa and gets prembhagvadi'step.but this bhakt
not say that iam a prembhagvadi like tulsa in
252vaishnav.this is bhakt's dinata.our pustimarg
which to thakorji by anany nam seva,swarupseva,
satsangseva with heart of love.
malati
malati
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shreekant22
PRO - Pushtikul.com / P.E.M. January 2004
1853 Posts
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Posted - 23 October 2004 : 16:02:49
Jai Shree Krishna
Thanks for raising the issue Gopal bhai.
Once a Gobalak, In his reply to a vaishnav had refered to him as Param Bhagwadiya.
After sometime, when he met the Acharya, he enquired as to why he had refered to him so, wanting to be either praised further or to clarify if it was taunt.
The Gobalak so replied: Dear Vaishnav, the reason for refering to you as Param bhavidya is simple. Param Bhagwadiyas where the 84 and 252 vaishnavs, however, it is always the wish of every Acharya that his vaishnavs should attain that status. Hence i have referd to you so, so that you may understand your gurus apeksha from you and start living to attain such a status.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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pushtidas
Mover & Shaker Member
398 Posts
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Posted - 23 October 2004 : 20:11:20
Jai Shree krishna
What Malatiji has described in her posting is the stages of being vaishnava, and well done Malatiji. What is Praram bhagvadiya and whom can we call tha? That is the main issue here.
In my opinion all vaishnava have to reach that Goal to be a Param Bahgvadia Vaishnava. When can one reach that?
I believe that to be a vaishnava in itself is also kathin these days and to be Param Bhagvadiay is a really out of our bound perhaps. Inspite of this statement, I do feel that we have some param Bhagvadia in Pushti Avashtha and residing on Bhutal (earh), but as Gopalbhai suggested these vallabhi Param Bhagvadia really dislike to be addressed that way and they want to remain anonymouse.
I think a param bhagvadia is the one who follows the teachings of Shree Vallabh, does Krishna seva as per Pushti margadarsan, also carefully follows all the rituals of aparash, agiyakari, nishthavaan, daso no das bhav, deenta (humbleness),Guru addar and always ready to serve Hari,Guru and Vaishnava.The vaishnav when does the seva just because he is vaishnava and it is his kartaviy, really needs to cover mile-stones to become Param Bhagvadiya. The Param Bhagvadiya is the vaishnava who does seva because it has become vyasaan and not duty.
Balbhodh Granth covers quite lot about vaishnavata and bigginer's guide to Pushtimarg.
There are atlest 112 dos and don'ts for vaishnava to be, and after that we could be starting a step towards Param Bhagvadiya Vaishnava. In short, if we have "LAKSHANS" of 84 and 252 vaishnava then perhaps we could address that vaishnava with "param" purushkar.
Daso no das
Pushtidas
Dasa no das
Pushtidas
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