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jayvinbhatt
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Posted - 09 September 2004 :  17:10:17
jai shree krishna

can some one please explain is shree radhaji and shree vallabh one swaroop (this is because we call radhaji shree swaminiji) this is a bit confusion for me so please explain.

thank you

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snehal gandhi
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52 Posts
Posted - 09 September 2004 :  17:40:12
Jai Shree Krushna Shree Vallabh swaroop is 'Streegudh bhavatmakam'. Once when Shree swaminiji(Shree Radhaji)did 'maan' with Shree Thakorji,both swaroops were not able to bear 'virah'. at that time Shree Thakorjis 'pu bhavatmak' swaroop in Shree Swaminijis heart and Shree Swaminijis 'stree bhavatmak' swaroop in Shree Thakorjis heart got pragat and met at the tat of Shree Yamunji in Golok dham. Both this swaroops gave aalingan(hug) to eachother and became one swaroop of Shree Vallabh. This way u can say that Shree Vallabh swaroop is both of Shree Thankorji and Shree Swaminiji(Shree Radhaji).Blend of both the swaroops. In golok everybody liked this swaroop verymuch and was named as 'Vallabh'-Vallabh means 'vahla'(dear). Secondly, Shree Thakorji has four swaminijis. First Shree Radhaji(Mukhya swaminiji),second Shree Chandravaliji (Shrutirupa),third Shree Radhasahachariji-also called as Kumarika or rishirupa-and fourth Shree Yamunaji (Chaturth Priya). Jai Shree Krushna

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pushtidas
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398 Posts
Posted - 09 September 2004 :  18:44:15
Jai Shree Krishna, Well done Snehalji, spot on with your answer and also well appreciated knowledge of Chatturth Swaminijis. Your answer also has a praman from Shree Gusainji Who revealed the Gudhbhavarthmak Swaroop by saying the followings: Saundayyam nijahradagatam prakatitam striguddhabhavatmakum pumrupanca punastadantaragatam pravivisat svapriye sanslistavubhayau babhau rasamayah krsno hi yatsaksikam rupam tattritayatmakam paramabhidhyeyam sadavallabham So the above can be loosely traslated as: Shri Krishna menifested an exceedingly lovely form of Shri Svamin's secret and loving feminine mood from His own Heart. Then Shri Svamini manifested the all-attractive male form of Shri Krishna from Her heart. These two forms then entered Their Beloved Vallabhacharya and made him not only a nectar-filled combination of both divine forms, but Their witness as well. Always contemplate on this magnificent three-fold form of Beloved Shrimad Vallabhacharya. I hope this will enhance what Snejalji said. Hope Jayji you are happy with the replies. Jai Shree Krishna Pushtidas. Edited by - pushtidas on September 09 2004 18:46:05

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shreekant22
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Posted - 10 September 2004 :  10:39:38
Jai shree Krishna May i add something more to this... the reason for the maan on shree Yamuna tat in Golok is as follows... When Shree thakorji left vraj, all the jeevs (whose uddar he had done) to left with him. how there remained many unattended jeevs in golok dham including many plants, and other creatures, Shree Swaminiji was aware of the fact that these jeevs where left behind and were know suffering in bhutal in virah of Shree Thakurji in various forms. Her worries eventually led her to think that oneday Shree thakorji may even leave her in virah, teh way he had left these jeevs. this caused immense virah taap in her and she had been away from Shree Thakorji. Shree Thakorji too was in virah taap of Shree Swaminiji. Knowing all this, Shree Yamunaji makes them both meet at her Tat, where The Jugal swaroops Virah tapp takes the forms as nicely explaind by Snehalji. Shree Vallabhs pragatya hence took place in golok Dham. On Seeing the Jugal Swaroopa together, is when Shree Vallabh relishing their divine form made the uchchaar of Ashtakshar Mantra... "Shree Krishna Sharanam Mamah" Which at an basic level means... Shree: That is Shree Swaminji, and Krishna: Shree Thakorji, both Jugal Swaroopa, now experienced by me as one, I am at your Sharan.

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jayvinbhatt
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394 Posts
Posted - 10 September 2004 :  12:39:48
jai shree krishna thank you very much for your clarification jsut want to add one little thing which shree hariraiji also said in his vallabh sakhi regarding the swaroop of shree vallabh and shree gusaiji which says shree vallabh, vitthal roop ko kokari sake vichar ghud bhav yeh swamini pragata krishna avatar. thank you

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vitthalcharan
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115 Posts
Posted - 10 September 2004 :  14:19:22
Jay shre krishna To understand perfectly the swaroop of shree vallabh, refer to Tika os Shree Sarvottam Stotra. In that the first 2 names of Shree vallabh narrated by shree gusaiji are 1. Anandah and 2. Parmanandah Explanation: Thier are two states of mind of bhakta i.e. Sayiyog and Viprayog. Now this states are very very important in Virah marg i.e. Pushtimarg. The Brahm dipicted and narrated in Anubhasya by Shree mahaprabhuji is "Viruddha dharama shrayi" I.e the one which consists of opposite dharmas. The meaning of "Anandah" name of shree mahaprabhuji is the bramh itself.FRom SAT-CHIT-ANAND and RASO VAI SAH, "ANAND" depicted in Vedas is swayam BRAMH i.e Shree krishna. So shree gusaiji starts with the name "ANANDAH" means shree acharya is Purna purushottam shree krihsna. Moreover in his next name, shree gusaiji says that "PARAMANANDAH" i.e. ANAND is of different types 1. Vishayanand 2. Bramhmanand 3. Bhajananad. From all 3, Bhajananad is the best. The another name of Bhajananda is "paramanand" and that is why the second name "paramandnah". ANANDAH - describes the sayiyog i.e shree krihsna and PARAMANANDAH - describes viprayog i.e. shree swaminiji. and as shree acharya consists of both sayiyog and viprayog both at same place and same time, he is also called "Viruddhadharmashrayi" i.e. characteristci of BRAHM as previosly said. Thus Shree Vallabh is combination of "SAYIYOG" and "VIPRAYOG" both and thus he is purna purushottam.

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shreekant22
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Posted - 13 September 2004 :  19:36:56
Jai Shree Krishna Sayiyog and Viprayog are inseparable they always co-exist. Like explained by me earlier, it is the Jugal swaroopas Viprayog that led to Sayiyog and hence the Pragatya of Shree Vallabh. Further it is the exceptional greatness of pushtimarag that recognizes them as separate entities, letting the bhaktha experience Shree Thakorjis seva not only in sayiyog but in viprayog too.

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vitthalcharan
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115 Posts
Posted - 13 September 2004 :  20:07:20
I mean to say that Shree Swaminijis Viprayog bhav and Shree krishna's Sayiyog bhav is both present in Shree Mahaprabhuji. Thus Shree Mahaprabhuji is "Viruddhadharmashrayi". WHile others are not virrudhadharmashrayi. Thus Shree Mahaprabhuji is purana purushottam I think you must read Shree Sarvottam stotra ind etail to understand what I want to say. Jai sjree krishna

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ojhaak
Pushtikul Elite Member - September 2003


209 Posts
Posted - 16 September 2004 :  15:18:19
Jai Shree Krishna Shri vithalcharan has rightly pointed out quoting SARVOTTAM STORA. Similarly the evolution of Ashtakchsar Mantra depicts the same incidence.

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