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rupen
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 Posted - 22 August 2006 : 04:19:37
Vaishnav, Jai Shree
Krishna
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Is Pushtimarg a Sanatan Dharma?
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purvi
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Posted - 22 August 2006 : 16:53:18
Jai jai shri Gokulesh
Sanatan dharma means Hindu dharma.
so pushti marg is a part of sanatan dharma.
this is as per my understanding.
Jai jai shri gokulesh.
nisha
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manish1
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Posted - 25 August 2006 : 06:39:28
Jai Shri Krishna,
yes it is, sanatan means eternal and one which has roots in Vedas.
So Pushtimarg is sanatan dharma, and Mahaprabhuji accepts Vedas as one of the most 4 authoritative texts.
Manish
Jai Shree Krishna
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rupen
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Posted - 29 August 2006 : 04:34:20
Vaishnav, Jai Shree
Krishna
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And thank you for the response.
Shree Mahaprabhuji tailored pushtimarg’s rules and regulations in such a way, that it complies with all the Vedas, Brahma Sutras, Shrimad Bhagvat and Shrimad Bhagvad Geeta (the praman granths that he used to support vaad). However, certain things cannot be carried out in the same manner that it was carried out during Shree Mahaprabhuji or Shree Gusaiji time.
Let’s say for example, 50 years back, our parents (and/or grand parents) use well water for Jhariji. But now a days, you cannot find wells (especially in cities). Solution is, we take agnaa from our gurudev to use tap water for Jhariji.
Here is one more example.
Can a vaishnav offer “Home made pizza” to his/her Thakorji?
My question is, what is the deciding factor that concludes the new procedure should be used in pushtimarg dharma. (Assuming, these new procedures are created by the new environmental conditions or situations)
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manish1
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Posted - 29 August 2006 : 05:03:25
Jai Shri Krishna,
Well, I do see where you are coming from and perhaps understand what concerns are passing through your mind.
I will give a straight response, in Pushtimarg there are no unified rules that are being followed everywhere, it is very much left from one Gurughar to another, and sometimes from one Vallabhkul Balak to another.
what i mean to say is that like some other religious institutions, Nathdwara temple does not issue, guidelines which are to be followed by are balaks or vaishnavs. Shri Mahaprabhuji granths/sidhant are there and it is best to refer to one Gurudev/Gurughar and do things accordingly.
thats how the current situation is according to me, I am sorry if I hurt anyone. this has been my observance and what I have heard from senior vaishnavs.
Manish
Jai Shree Krishna
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rupen
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Posted - 31 August 2006 : 03:25:16
Vaishnav Jai Shree Krishna,
And again thanks for the response.
Unfortunately, your response was already included in the first example of my post. But thank you for elaborating the details.
Here is another example related to Shriji Shringar.
Summer timing are different in India, U.K, and U.S.A.
Following appropriate graha-shringar booklet or as per Shri Gusaiji’s Shringar mandalam, we offer Shriji with bright and light weighted vastras in grishma rutu (summer). But summer is over in India at this time (August/Sep.), however in USA and/or UK still the summer temperature is 45 degree Celsius. Question is, what is the deciding factor, in offering right vastra to Shriji.
Question is still unanswered and open.
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unnati
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Posted - 31 August 2006 : 09:44:08
Jai jai shri gokulesh
There are different places considered as Mallecha places. U.S.A and U.K are one of them so the seva pranali is not been mentioned with relation to the seasons changing there....
Also we have to serve thakoreji with dinta and we have to comfort our Master even in relation to the small things. It will be much better if one asks his own acharya guru regarding what to do in this situation...
Hope i did not offended anyone.
Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
Unnati Kadakia
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friendmonu
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Posted - 31 August 2006 : 17:33:53
Jai Shri Krishna!!
Related to Rupenji's query,
Can a vaishnav offer “Home made pizza” to his/her Thakorji?
I think we can't, becoz the seva prakar is decided by Shri Mahaprabhuji is considering Thakurji's sukh i.e foremost duty of Vaishnav OK. It has also been said in 84 vaishnav varta (no. I don't remember rifgt now) in tika by Shri Harirayji Prabhuji that thinking some abstract things for or abt Thakurji viz Thakurji is creator of universe He had created all things , so why can't we offer onion, raddish, garlic etc. Can't Thakurji get over diet if He eats at all vaishnav's place, He is small or can adjust or is getting elder day by day is not allowed as it leads to dosh.
So after reading this I think vaishnav should not think of offering this worldly things n should contact his/her Gurughar first.
Jai Shree Krishna!!
Regards,
Monica.
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jigershah
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Posted - 02 September 2006 : 17:08:55
jsk
tomatoes are not part of pushti menu so pizza even with paneer is not allowed
kind regs jiger shah
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shyamdasji
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Posted - 03 September 2006 : 19:07:50
jai shree krishna,
to above questions and the replies ,i think anything and everything cannot be offered to thakorji,thats when seva pranalika comes in to picture,shree vallabh (mukharvind swaroop)has laid some rules ,and has made a seva pralika,shree vallabh has also kept shashtras in mind and thus he has not gone against that,secondly shree vallabh has laid seva prakar of shree thakorji as per in the time of thakorji when he actually resided in vraj at nandbhavan,thus what ever samagris which were offered by shree yashodaji,are till today included in samagri pranalika,thus there is no question of any kind of confusion,still todays generation expect some changes,but there r few things which r to be followed by pranalika,the reason pranalika was made by shree vallabh was that vaishnav doesnot follow random reet and commit dosas,since in our marg prabhu prapti is easy but dosas commited have very severe effect,imagine we pusti jeevs r on bhutal due to r dosas in nitya leela,then it might be a small dos or even a big dos,as shree gokulnathji said"dos commited knowlingly or unknowlingly has its pratap on jeev ,the example he gives is very perfect saying if u drink poison knowlingly or unknowling will u die or no,in the same way jeev has to face if he commits dos ,but its severity will be less if commited unknowlingly,and who knows thakorji being krupalu sometimes forgets also,so instead best way is to commit less dos ,since we jeev r full of dos and cant get rid of that ,thus shree vallbh shows us a path by which we can achieve thakorji with minimum dos,by following seva pranalika.thus i hope i could to some extent sort out the confusion,any kind of suggestion or questions r welcomed,
for any mistake shama from vaishnavs and lotus feet of shree vallabh.
jai shree krishna.
Edited by - shyamdasji on 03 September 2006 19:09:11
shyam vajani
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manish1
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Posted - 06 September 2006 : 10:27:06
quote:
Here is another example related to Shriji Shringar.
Summer timing are different in India, U.K, and U.S.A.
Following appropriate graha-shringar booklet or as per Shri Gusaiji’s Shringar mandalam, we offer Shriji with bright and light weighted vastras in grishma rutu (summer). But summer is over in India at this time (August/Sep.), however in USA and/or UK still the summer temperature is 45 degree Celsius. Question is, what is the deciding factor, in offering right vastra to Shriji.
Jai Shri Krishna,
as pointed out by Unnatji, that best to consult with one gurughar and adopt a way.
In one pravachan Bawa said that either we create artificial summer (by heater or agithi) say during winter in Australia, then we can offer light vastra. or keeping bhagwat sukh in mind, if its very cold here, then follow things according to the weather of current place and time.
so both way can be adopted, but better to check with one Gurughar.
Manish
Jai Shree Krishna
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