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jagdish
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Posted - 12 April 2005 : 14:53:36
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Jai Shri KRishna,
Jagdishbhai they are not only readable but excellent.
Keep up the good work and thanks a lot.
We appreciate your postings.
Jai Shri Krishna,
Thank You.
It would be nice if people participated more and discussed the meaning of lines in the Pads as there is alot to learn from them and since i live in ignorance, i don't really understand these pads or the meanings behind them.
Best Wishes
Jagdish
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shreekant22
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Posted - 12 April 2005 : 17:33:55
Jai Shree Krishna
Jagdish Bhai, let us try to decipher the meanings in first pad....(Most of the Vaishnavs, I am sure would have easily understood as it is in Simple Gujrati)
Shri Vallabha Vitthala Hari na jānyā
Tene sarvasva khoyu re
One who has not realised nor understood the devine swaroopas of Shree Mahaprabhu shree Vallabh and Paramdayal Shree Gusainji Shree Vitthalnath, has lost everthing/not gained anything at all in his life.
Shu lāvyā shu leyne jāso
Vārama vār vahevāya re
What dose one bring with him ? and what is it that one takes back ?. Time keeps paasing by week after week.
Now for someone to add-on...
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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jagdish
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Posted - 12 April 2005 : 22:39:56
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Jai Shree Krishna
Jagdish Bhai, let us try to decipher the meanings in first pad....(Most of the Vaishnavs, I am sure would have easily understood as it is in Simple Gujrati)
Shri Vallabha Vitthala Hari na jānyā
Tene sarvasva khoyu re
One who has not realised nor understood the devine swaroopas of Shree Mahaprabhu shree Vallabh and Paramdayal Shree Gusainji Shree Vitthalnath, has lost everthing/not gained anything at all in his life.
Shu lāvyā shu leyne jāso
Vārama vār vahevāya re
What dose one bring with him ? and what is it that one takes back ?. Time keeps paasing by week after week.
Now for someone to add-on...
Jai Shri Krishna,
Shu lāvyā shu leyne jāso
(Could this also mean what good things have we brought with us, things like good samskars ?) and in the end what do we plan on taking back with us (such as our Ego and our karmic actions which will decide what our final destination will be etc).
Vārama vār vahevāya re
Following from what Shreekant bhai said, that time keeps passing by...and we do nothing so -- could this also mean that because we do nothing (about life and the opportunity given to us) again and again (time and again) we get planted and replanted like a crop in the farm(like a farmer plants crop in the farm) ?
Best Wishes
Jagdish
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shreekant22
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Posted - 13 April 2005 : 12:46:45
Jai Shree Krishna
Chaalo havve aagal vadhiye.....
Pushti Māraga mā je jana āvyā
Vishwās enā vargyāre
The Jeevs who have come into the fold of Pushtimarag, gain exceptional confidence in themselves and readily face all consequences with Viveka, Dhairya and have aashray only in one, that is our Shree Thakorji.
Sevā nu phara sevā thāse
Rutu pramāne mewā re
And how is this marg ? This is Nissadhan marg. Where Sadhan initself is the Fruit too. Hence it is said, the Seva is the Path and Seva is the ultimate fruit too. Furhter it says that one who is enogrossed in such a seva, day in and day out, conciously taking care of Shree Thakorjis Sukh, keeping in mind the various seasons, etc, to such a jeev parbhu offeres great bliss through his prasad and also by letting him experience his leelas too.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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jagdish
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Posted - 14 April 2005 : 04:44:10
Jai Shri Krishna,
Thank You. I am a little confused here..
The marg is without Sadhan ?
How is it possible that Sadhan in itself be the Fruit (normally one gets fruit when one does some work/action/karm)?
Seva is the Path then Seva becomes the Sadhan ?
Would the ultimate fruit then not be Thakorji himself or his Grace/Krupa ?
Rutu pramane mewa re
- According to the season one gets the sweets/fruits ?
So then can this also mean that according to one's seva (devotion or /karm) etc one gets the fruit of that labour/action ?
So if one is performing seva with sincerity and devotion, then the mewa (fruit) will be Thakorji or the experience of His leelas or his Grace or his Compassion ?
Sorry if i said too much.
Best Wishes
Jagdish
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shreekant22
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Posted - 14 April 2005 : 13:02:23
Jai Shree Krishna
Hence it is said, the Seva is the Path and Seva is the ultimate fruit too....
Let me clarify the above. A Pushtijeevs final goal is Shree Thakorji Nikunj Seva. He seeks no fruit for his labour. The only thing he seeks is Shree Thakorji himself. Well here in by saying we seek Shree Thakorji himslef, we mean we seek to be a part of him,(For Prabhu is Akhila Brahmand roop) and by saying a part of him, we mean to be a part of his eternal Leelas in Golok dhaam.
We do SEVA here which is the sadhan for SEVA in Nikunj hence it is said that SEVA is the sadhan and SEVA is teh ultimate fruit too.
Hope this clarifies.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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jagdish
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Posted - 14 April 2005 : 14:23:10
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Jai Shree Krishna
Hence it is said, the Seva is the Path and Seva is the ultimate fruit too....
Let me clarify the above. A Pushtijeevs final goal is Shree Thakorji Nikunj Seva. He seeks no fruit for his labour. The only thing he seeks is Shree Thakorji himself. Well here in by saying we seek Shree Thakorji himslef, we mean we seek to be a part of him,(For Prabhu is Akhila Brahmand roop) and by saying a part of him, we mean to be a part of his eternal Leelas in Golok dhaam.
We do SEVA here which is the sadhan for SEVA in Nikunj hence it is said that SEVA is the sadhan and SEVA is teh ultimate fruit too.
Hope this clarifies.
Jai Shri Krishna,
Thank You, the further explanation certainly helps to clarify.
Is it fair in saying/thinking that the ultimate goal for a pushti jeev is to alway make effort to be/become part of Thakorji's "nitya" leelas (These do not have to be restricted to Golok Dhaam) which he performs in every yuga, because then the jeev is always following Thakorji whereever Thakorji goes ?
Best Wishes
Jagdish
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shreekant22
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Posted - 14 April 2005 : 14:29:18
Jai Shree Krishna
The ultimate goal of a Pushitjeev is Seva of Shree Thakorji in Nikunj. Well to follow him or not is as per the agyaan of Shree Thakorji, and the leelas he is indulging in.
please do correct me if I am wrong.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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jagdish
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Posted - 14 April 2005 : 15:22:32
Jai Shri, Krishna,
You are absolutely right. Without His agyaan or wish nothing is possible.
However, my understanding in ignorance was that a pushti jeev has been given the adhikaar by Thakorji or has been graced by Yamuna Maharani Maa which entitles them to have certain Bhaav and serve Thakorji according to that Bhaav and hence they can "desire" (i use the word desire very loosely) to be part of whichever leela they want to be..but ultimately ofcourse they would let Thakorji wish them to do whatever He wants them to do.
Best Wishes
Jagdish
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jagdish
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Posted - 15 April 2005 : 16:04:11
Jai Shri Krishna,
Here is another one. I am hoping everyone will have a chance to discuss the previous ones and raise their concerns or express their concerns
Best Wishes
Jagdish
Eka Palaka Jo Rahiye Vrandāvana
Eka palaka jo rahiye Vrandāvana,
Eka palaka jo rahiye
Koti janma ke pāpa katata he
Shree Krushna, Krushna mukha kahiye Vrindāvana
Eka palaka jo rahiye
Māhāprasada aura jala Jamunāko,
Tanaka tanaka bhara lahiye
Surdās Vaikuntha madhupuri,
Bhāgya vina kaise paiye Vrindāvana
Eka palaka jo rahiye
Eka palaka jo rahiye Vrandāvana,
Eka palaka jo rahiye
Pad: Āshray
Rāg: Bihāg
Nāmālavi: Sur dās
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