To answer Anoopji's query, I have some questions before we get into his questions.
Yes we all know "Yehi tehi, tehi yehi kachu na sandeh".
Why did Shri Gusainjiprabhu charan have to have Seven balak?
Does all seven Balak have same ( Lila ) swaroop?
Does pranalika of each house to perform seva is same?
If we understand this swaroop then we will realize what was told is right or wrong.
Understand that My P.P. Shri Gurucharn is my Father & Mother, He is authorised to give order, advise (Agnya) to me not to some one else who is not from my house.
I agree with one point that we all have to respect Shri Vallabhkul but follow one path.
Laukik example: Our aim is to watch movie in theater, there are seven enternace. You can enter from the door which is you are authorised to but ultimate result is we all are going to wach same movie by seating on different seats.
I hope this will give some help to clear our todays big delema.
Posted - 14 March 2006 : 14:56:00
Jsk, The topic is going on nicely!! Waiting for Gopalbhai's reply to understand the concepts more clearly. Jsk, Monica
Bhajanam Sarvarupeshu Phalsiddyai Tathapi Tu || 3 ||"
Nibandh - Shastrarth Prakaran -13
In puranas the particular dev is the shrihari of that purans. Like in vishnupuran, shrihari is shrivishnu, in shivmahapuran, shrishivji is shri hari, etc. But for complete fruit do bhajan of Sarvaroopa means shrihari of all dev's and devi's.
By Samasti Antaryami, three parts Gunaavtaar, Leelaavtaar, Anshkalaavtaar. They are the aavtaars of ShriHari and not the Aavtari ShriKrishna. These aavtars are inclined by Gunas, Leelas or either are Ansh-Kalaavtaars And not the Purnapurushottam. They are aavtars of PurnaPurushottam. this Samasti Antaryami relates to Karmamaargis. Aksharbrahma have 5 stages Prakruti, Purush, Kaal, Karma & Swabhaav. The Gyanmaargis follow Aksharbrahma for to do bhajam. And they r dependent on these 5 stages. But for Sacchhidaanadaika rastatv Parmatma Parma Brahma Bhagvan Shri Krishna is the Purnapurushottam. And they both (samsti Antaryami and Akshar Brahma ) r dependent on Shrikrishna_ShriGokulesh. The PurnaPurushottam.
for read Nibandh-Shastrarthprakaran Sloka 13 to 19 vrajbhasha tika.
Again in the context to Ananyata-and-anyashray, 1. some says that there r 5 main Devs-- Vishnu, Shivji, Ganeshji, Shakti(DEVI) And Surya (SUN), which is been famous by the name of Panchayatan devs. 2. But some also says that these 5 devs are the part of ShriKrishna. So bhajan of their individualy is not required. Just do bhajan of ShriKrishna (shrigokulesh) and also do not hate other devs-devis. What is truth in these 2...........?
-------> In shastras the pooja of panch-devs (panchayatan) pooja iss been mentionened which is the Shriangh of ShriGokulesh. Bramans has the adhikaar of seva of ShriShaligramji. But if teh Brahman is Vaishnavadiksha yukta and is having AnanyaBhakti in Shrigokulesh, so if this brahmin performs seva of this panchdevs by differentiating differently then is surely Anyashray, but understand one thing that ShriBhagwn has taken incarnation in swaroop of ShriShaligramji. now this Shaligramji comes from 5 alphabets. SA+LI+G+R+M
Sa means Shivji, LI means Lakshmiji (Shakti-Devi), G means Ganpatiji, R means Ravi (surya-sun) and M means Madhav (vishnu) means Shaligramji. So the poojan of ShriShaligramji means the Poojan of the Panchayatan-panchdev. If we recall the prasang ShriMahaprabhuji's father-in-law used to do Panchayatan Seva and in that Madhav was ShriGokulnathji, which shrimahaprabhuji had kept in the Seva. But for other 4 Devs ShriShivji, ShriDevi, Shriganpatiji, ShriSurya, aapshri kept in shrigangaji. This was the panchayatan pooja of ShriMahaprabhuji's Father-in-Law.
Moreover in the Vaarta prasang of Vasudevdas Chakda, when he carried the Bhet for ShriGusaiji from Vaishnavas of Sihnand the gold coins, He made a swaroop of Shaligramji made from sand in which he kept the Sona Muhurs(gold coins) and came to shrimad gokul and then broke the shaligramji to offer Bhet to ShriGusaji. And at this time ShriGusaiji scolded that never use such swaroop either shrishaligramji for such purpose, as it is a bhagwad swaroop.
Now someone might question that how ShriKrishna is the biggest Dev amont other Panchayatan devs..........?
======> In Shaligram the 1st word Sa - Shivji Shivji was been served by Ravan, also Banasur, Tripurasur, Vrukasur etcs, These all Asurs did Tapascharya and did prasanna to ShriShivji and got the blesssings. ButThe Blessings recieved from Shivji was not a long time they r temperory. But the Bhakts like Dhruvji,Prahladji, etc were Bhakts of ShriPrabhu and they were been saved by ShriPrabhu. And the Asurs were been killed by ShriPRabhu either in Swaroop of ShriMaryadapurushottam shriRamchandraji or Purnapurushottam ShriKrishnachandraji. Even Shivji was attracted by the Mohini Swaroop of ShriPRabhu and Shivji slept on Nandishwar. Prabhu saved Shivji from Tripurasur, whom shivji gave vardaan-blessings. But ShriPrabhu did Raksha-Saved ShriShivji. So no power of Shivji works on ShriKRishna.
========> Now the word LI-Lakshmiji-Shakti-Devi etc. Once during doing Krida of Shivji with ShriParvatiji on the Ilavartkhand, ShriParvatiji got tired, at that time, ShriPrabhu threw his Sudarshan Kavash on ShivLing and cutted into 12 pieces and made ShriParvatiji Bhaymukta (free from frighten). There is 1 prasang in ShriBhagwadji of a Bhagwad Bhakta Bharatji when he incarnated in next birth as JadBharat. When Bharatji incarnated in form of Jadbharatji, he was carried to Bhadrakali for giving Bali by the sevaks of Bhadrakali magaji. But Bhadrakaliji did sanhaar (killed) all the sevaks and saved Jadbharatji, as he is a BhagwadBhakta, the Shakti (Devi) saved Jadbharat as even they r afraid of Bhagwad Bhakts along with Bhagwan. Also during the time of Raamavtaar during the sitaji's Haran-Lila when ravan took Sitaji to Lanka, at that time, Shriramchandraji was doing vilaap for sitaji like a laukik manushya. So looking at this Parvatiji said "We r praying the Brahma and that brahma incarned in swaroop of ShriRamchandraji, And he being a the Rajputra, why like a laukik manushya He is doing vilaap for sitaji? Listening to this Shivji said "Hey Sati! Bhagwan Shriramchandraji is the maryadapurushottam swaroop and is just doing the leela like a lokikmanushya and is making us mohit from this leela. If u dont' have faith in my saying, u may examine ShriRamchandraji and i m sitting under this tree." Parvatiji then came to examine ShriRamchandraji by taking the swaroop of ShriJankinandini Sitaji. But Shriramchandraji looking at her said "Aho Dakshanandini! Hey ShriParvatiji! Why today u alone did padhramani without ShriMahadevji, Any special reason?" Listening to this Parvatiji got shy and came back to ShriShivji. And said i haven't examined ShriRAmchandraji, but keeping faith in ur words, i just came back. This was the false argument, So Shivji didn't allowed ShriParvatiji to sid on the same aasan and offered different aasan apart from him, as due to false statement. ShriParvatiji understood that this is the fruit of my false statement. And then she prayed to shivji for her mistake. So By such there r many other prasangs, in which the shakti (devi) got Mohit (attracted) by the leela of ShriBhagwan
===So again ShriKrishna-ShriGokulesh is biggest Dev even then Devi-Shakti-Lakshmiji.
Posted - 18 March 2006 : 11:07:51
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,
Now the GA in Shaligramji stands for Ganpatiji. During the SamudraManthan with the orders of ShriPrabhu, both the Surs(devtas) and the Asurs (rakshas-gans) both together started doing the Samudra Manthan. And this time the poojan of the Vighnaharta ShriGaneshji's poojan was not done with the orders of ShriPrabhu. So shriGaneshji drowned the Mandrachal Mountain in the Sea. AT this time Prabhu took Incarnation in the form of Tortoise. and did the Uddhar and made ShriGaneshji in Moh. So likewise no power of ShriGanpatiji worked on ShriPrabhu's leela.
Now further in ShriShaligramji the word Alphabet R for RAvi - Sun-Surya. When during the time of Samudramanthan Amrut found and when the Devs were to take that Amrut A asur named RAahu came in between Sun and Moon. That time ShriHari applied the SudershanChakra and broke away the head of Raahu. And saved Sun and moon from the disaster of raahu.
In shrimad Bhagwadji 3-25-42, ShriKapildevji gave the following orders, By the frightened the winds blows, the sun shines, indra showers rains, fire burns, and the death dies Is Me. Thus ShriHari is the bigger dev then Vaayyu, Sun, Indra, etc.
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