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unnati
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 16:28:12
Jai jai shri Gokulesh
Gopalbhai, that was a beautiful explanation.
In the whole Gadhmantra there are 84 letters and the last 5 are "Panchakshar mantra". Panchaksharmantra is to be recited in front of thakoreji. As said by Gopalbhai regarding Panchakshar Mantra, So GadhMantra is not given in the treatise of Siddhant Rahasya.
Unnati Kadakia
Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
Unnati Kadakia
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hit
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 21:44:19
Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh, nice going, pl.continue.
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gopal
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Posted - 04 May 2006 : 13:53:37
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh
Continued..........
Here the Tikakaar ShriPurushottamcharan wanted to explain the gopniyata ( personalness) of Mantra. Like in ShriBhagwatji the word "TAP" comes. So instead of saying the whole word, this word is been described as the 16th and 21st alphabet of Sparshvarna. To ShriPurushottamcharan takes the same example to make understand the doubt. Like not saying the direct word, but by pointing the similarly reflects the meaning. And in this Sanketik word the words are Bhagwad vakya (TAP), So here also in Brahmasambandh Mantra, there is Bhagwad Vakya, so is Gopniya and is not been described fully, the Samarpan Gadhya Mantra. The meaning is Bhagwad Vakya, Bhagwad Mantra, etc are very Gambhir (sensitive) so to keep unadvertise to non-adhikari jeevs, this Sutratmak method is been used. So the GAdhya mantra is also Gopniya. So ShriMahaprabhuji hadnt given the whold of the brahmasambandh mantra. And this same applies for Astakshar Mantra, s it is Bhagwad Mantra...........
Source : - Siddhant Rahashya Granth - ShriPurushottamcharan's Vivrutti-Tika Sloka 1st. Granth Published by Goswami ShriRajkumar Nrityagopalji year SAmvat 2059 Page no 58
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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dadaji
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Posted - 04 May 2006 : 19:59:07
Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh,
Very very true gopalbhai.
Haripriya.
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 13 June 2006 : 15:47:44
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,
Now we understood that Brahmasambandh Mantra is Gopya, And also shastras says that mantras r gopya, and they had not to publish in public.So Even our Astakshar Mantra is a mantra, So is the same rule applicable for Astakshar Mantra??
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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shreekant22
PRO - Pushtikul.com / P.E.M. January 2004
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Posted - 13 June 2006 : 17:32:17
Jai Shree Krishna
In the Grantha Navratnam, Mahaprabhuji himself has mentioned the Ashtakshar Mantra.......in shloka 9.
As per the clarification given by PPG 108 Shree Yadunathji Maharajshree, The Ashtakshar Mantra too is gopya only, however, the same can be recited when in company of fellow Vaishnavs etc. However, one should restrain from reciting the Ashtakshar mantra in public places, in front of anya margis etc.
Shree Vallabha dheesh ki jai
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gopal
Pushtikul Elite Member - August 2003
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Posted - 27 June 2006 : 19:38:57
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,
Thanks Shreekantbhai for sharing the Vachnamruts of Pujya ShriYadunathji Maharjshri.
Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar, Baroda
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unnati
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Posted - 30 June 2006 : 09:02:13
Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh
Shri Vitthal Bawashri very beautifully gave the vachnamrut on Siddhant Rahasya Granth when Aapshri was here at Mumbai and that time Jeje explained;
"Matri guptabhashane: Mantra is always gopniya it is not to be prakat"
Mantra is not to recited(Patha). Mantra is to do Jap.
Thats why in Sarvottam Stotra it is said in the last stanza "Japyam krushna rasarthibhihi" and not "Patheetavyam krushna rasarthibhihi"
Edited by - unnati on 30 June 2006 10:05:34
Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
Unnati Kadakia
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Kadakiar
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Posted - 30 June 2006 : 12:40:51
Jay Jay Shri Gokulesh,
I have a questions from the explaination given by Bhai Gopal.
Yes, I agree as Unnati mention that :"Matri guptabhashane: Mantra is always gopniya it is not to be prakat"
But When Bhai Gopla says that as it is "The meaning is Bhagwad Vakya, Bhagwad Mantra, etc are very Gambhir (sensitive) so to keep unadvertise to non-adhikari jeevas"
My Question is Vachan of Shri Krishna In Gitaji to Shri Arjun, Shruti/Smruti in Vedas they are all Shri BHAGWAD VAKYA...
Is all this needs to be kept GOPYA?
Regards
Rajendra Kadakia
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Bharat Lathigara
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Posted - 30 June 2006 : 13:46:06
Brahamsambandh
Is a topic of good discussion. It need more clarification of to its pustimargi values and the whole ceremony. How where and why and by whom.
Some Pustimargi vaishnav have been mislead. And unauthorized "sanths" have taken the liberty of performing such a ritual. Awarness will help.
Bharat Lathigara
na Jai Shree Krishna
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